Listened to your talk with Jeremiah today (who as usual was awesome)... And it makes sense that
1. They had to tailor (dumb down) the system for JJ
2. Washington was the perfect place to look better
3. JJ was good, but still (even outside of mechanics) a bunch of issues
4. Every week they need to add more wrinkles to get JJ better
5. It will be a process and take some time.
Personally I think JJ needed a week off to just clear his head.
And maybe (hopefully) it is just lack of reps at the NFL level. The fact that he gets it in practice is a good start. Outside of lack of reps, maybe he gets himself too hyped up for games. Maybe a more zen like outlook (in addition to his meditation) would help.
Dirty Dan Campbell took over play-calling against DC. The Leos scored 44. Then 9 vs the Eagles, 34 vs the Jints, 24 vs the Wisconsinites and 44 vs Dallas. It's only 5 games, but that suggests the opponent matters more than any other factor. My no. 2 would be having a healthy OL all game. Every offence works better when defenders are blocked, and worse when they aren't.
Unfortunately, one game against a bad team, having a bad day, doesn't tell us anything meaningful. If JJMC looks semi-competent for four more games, maybe the week off helped, but I'm skeptical.
We all are skeptical. It is a first step... A necessary first step. But nothing more. And taking the first step does not mean the second step will happen. It just means it MIGHT be possible. Might be possible
JJ has the physical traits and the work habits to get it done. And again. that does NOT mean he will put it all together.
And agreed OL and opponent are key. Even Mahomes can look pedestrian when his OL gets beat every other play.
Could it be something as simple as the fact that he hasn't adjusted to the speed of the game yet? That would explain doing well in practice but not during games in addition to the other things you mentioned.
There is no offence that works when the QB looks like a skittish toddler. Warner is right that more complex systems can maximize performance, but they are also harder to execute. This offence worked just fine with JJ and better QB play. Likewise, it's fine to have a shifting, week-to-week defence. It's also fine to have a simple system, with zero broken plays because nobody ever gets confused, executed by great players. The Sapp/Rice Tampa teams dominated because they had incredible pass rush, hard hitting safeties, rangy LBs and corners who could tackle and cover the flats. You could teach that to a high school team, and if you have the players you win state, if you don't you miss the playoffs.
It's nice that Maye looks great, it seems like he's made a leap, but spoiler--the opponents matter, too. Warner isn't incentivized to espouse patience and perspective, but it's ok to wait until Maye beats the two of the Texans, Bolts or Broncos in the playoffs before drawing too many conclusions.
Coller told me questions about JJ and the system fit were mind numbing and panicky last month, but I guess we can talk about it now (half kidding). There are really two aspects to the system stuff. Does it fit his physical skill set and the type of throws he has shown he is good at? And does it fit with where he is at mentally as a young, rookie-ish QB. The pure progression stuff is more on the mental side of things obviously, and I’m open to the idea that it might be easier for young QBs than trying to decipher all of the disguised coverages. It didn’t seem all that difficult when Warner broke it down, but I’m not a 22 year old trying to do it in a live game. The physical skill set/throw type thing is where I’ve had more of an issue. Yes, McCarthy has historically been very good at intermediate throws, but he also thrived primarily over the middle of the field and on the move. We just haven’t seen a ton of that this year. Maybe there are good reasons for that, but I would’ve liked to see them start with more of that stuff and ease him into all the deep outs and crossers that KOC loves.
Listened to your talk with Jeremiah today (who as usual was awesome)... And it makes sense that
1. They had to tailor (dumb down) the system for JJ
2. Washington was the perfect place to look better
3. JJ was good, but still (even outside of mechanics) a bunch of issues
4. Every week they need to add more wrinkles to get JJ better
5. It will be a process and take some time.
Personally I think JJ needed a week off to just clear his head.
And maybe (hopefully) it is just lack of reps at the NFL level. The fact that he gets it in practice is a good start. Outside of lack of reps, maybe he gets himself too hyped up for games. Maybe a more zen like outlook (in addition to his meditation) would help.
Dirty Dan Campbell took over play-calling against DC. The Leos scored 44. Then 9 vs the Eagles, 34 vs the Jints, 24 vs the Wisconsinites and 44 vs Dallas. It's only 5 games, but that suggests the opponent matters more than any other factor. My no. 2 would be having a healthy OL all game. Every offence works better when defenders are blocked, and worse when they aren't.
Unfortunately, one game against a bad team, having a bad day, doesn't tell us anything meaningful. If JJMC looks semi-competent for four more games, maybe the week off helped, but I'm skeptical.
We all are skeptical. It is a first step... A necessary first step. But nothing more. And taking the first step does not mean the second step will happen. It just means it MIGHT be possible. Might be possible
JJ has the physical traits and the work habits to get it done. And again. that does NOT mean he will put it all together.
And agreed OL and opponent are key. Even Mahomes can look pedestrian when his OL gets beat every other play.
It's something that happened. Calling it a step suggests progress, I don't think things are there, yet.
If we include staying healthy as a physical trait, well. . .sure JJMC works hard, but so does Brosmer. Hell, so did Tarvaris and Ponder.
Could it be something as simple as the fact that he hasn't adjusted to the speed of the game yet? That would explain doing well in practice but not during games in addition to the other things you mentioned.
There is no offence that works when the QB looks like a skittish toddler. Warner is right that more complex systems can maximize performance, but they are also harder to execute. This offence worked just fine with JJ and better QB play. Likewise, it's fine to have a shifting, week-to-week defence. It's also fine to have a simple system, with zero broken plays because nobody ever gets confused, executed by great players. The Sapp/Rice Tampa teams dominated because they had incredible pass rush, hard hitting safeties, rangy LBs and corners who could tackle and cover the flats. You could teach that to a high school team, and if you have the players you win state, if you don't you miss the playoffs.
It's nice that Maye looks great, it seems like he's made a leap, but spoiler--the opponents matter, too. Warner isn't incentivized to espouse patience and perspective, but it's ok to wait until Maye beats the two of the Texans, Bolts or Broncos in the playoffs before drawing too many conclusions.
Three yards and cloud of dust might be better. That should be simple enough.
Coller told me questions about JJ and the system fit were mind numbing and panicky last month, but I guess we can talk about it now (half kidding). There are really two aspects to the system stuff. Does it fit his physical skill set and the type of throws he has shown he is good at? And does it fit with where he is at mentally as a young, rookie-ish QB. The pure progression stuff is more on the mental side of things obviously, and I’m open to the idea that it might be easier for young QBs than trying to decipher all of the disguised coverages. It didn’t seem all that difficult when Warner broke it down, but I’m not a 22 year old trying to do it in a live game. The physical skill set/throw type thing is where I’ve had more of an issue. Yes, McCarthy has historically been very good at intermediate throws, but he also thrived primarily over the middle of the field and on the move. We just haven’t seen a ton of that this year. Maybe there are good reasons for that, but I would’ve liked to see them start with more of that stuff and ease him into all the deep outs and crossers that KOC loves.