Is it possible the Vikings can make a "salary dump" type of trade? Say trading Rudolph for an average guard or interior defensive player and creating cap space? Maybe a mid/late pick added in either direction to make it work. The vikings have a few players under contract that could traded instead of cut. I realize teams don't like to trade for a player they assume will be cut but this way a tight end poor team (AZ for example) can make sure they get Rudolph instead of a bidding war with a division rival.
That would be the ideal situation for sure. The problem is that when other teams know that a player is likely going to be a salary dump, they usually just wait for that guy to be cut. You don’t see too many trades of unfavorable contracts for that reason. I’m certainly they’ll attempt to do what you’re laying out though
That's why I mentioned adding a pick. Almost every team would trade a starting guard for Rudolph and the Vikings 1st round pick even if they thought he was going to be released. The question is can they find atrade partner for say Rudolph and a 4th or 5th round pick
About O-Line development/talent why do the packers seem to a much better job at both? Bakhtiari was a 4th round pick, all-pro center Corey Linsley was a 5th round pick and while the vikings where selecting Bradbury in the 1st, who they hope can just become an average center, Green Bay takes Elgton Jenkins, who looks to be another all-pro. So is it drafting, coaching, or the fact the Packers don't have a wooden Indian playing QB!
Yeah there's a few different reasons I'm sure. Their O-line coach just joined in 2019 and they continued to get great results so that kind of speaks to the thing about pointing fingers at the coach. They've had 2 huge busts at OL over the last decade in 2011 Derek Sherrod and 2016 Jason Spriggs.. both high picks that blew up. Maybe they have a good eye for scouting which mid or late rounders could be hits? Or maybe they got lucky as heck in the draft with those guys + have a mobile QB
Ok I guess..... I just think it’s kind of funny that Bradbury just needs better guard play so he can be better, sort of the Kirk Cousins of centers lol
In response to the very first question, I think I saw somewhere Kirk had a below-average EPA/per play in garbage time among all QBs. I know one stat is not an end-all be-all, but it is interesting that some numbers point to the opposite of him being the emperor of garbage time.
I won’t pretend that I’m very well versed in EPA, I just know that it’s usually quite useful. A lot of other QBs likely have a smaller sample size too, so take that for what it’s worth.
Garbage time definitely falls into the bucket of bad defenses, though.
Is it possible the Vikings can make a "salary dump" type of trade? Say trading Rudolph for an average guard or interior defensive player and creating cap space? Maybe a mid/late pick added in either direction to make it work. The vikings have a few players under contract that could traded instead of cut. I realize teams don't like to trade for a player they assume will be cut but this way a tight end poor team (AZ for example) can make sure they get Rudolph instead of a bidding war with a division rival.
That would be the ideal situation for sure. The problem is that when other teams know that a player is likely going to be a salary dump, they usually just wait for that guy to be cut. You don’t see too many trades of unfavorable contracts for that reason. I’m certainly they’ll attempt to do what you’re laying out though
That's why I mentioned adding a pick. Almost every team would trade a starting guard for Rudolph and the Vikings 1st round pick even if they thought he was going to be released. The question is can they find atrade partner for say Rudolph and a 4th or 5th round pick
About O-Line development/talent why do the packers seem to a much better job at both? Bakhtiari was a 4th round pick, all-pro center Corey Linsley was a 5th round pick and while the vikings where selecting Bradbury in the 1st, who they hope can just become an average center, Green Bay takes Elgton Jenkins, who looks to be another all-pro. So is it drafting, coaching, or the fact the Packers don't have a wooden Indian playing QB!
Yeah there's a few different reasons I'm sure. Their O-line coach just joined in 2019 and they continued to get great results so that kind of speaks to the thing about pointing fingers at the coach. They've had 2 huge busts at OL over the last decade in 2011 Derek Sherrod and 2016 Jason Spriggs.. both high picks that blew up. Maybe they have a good eye for scouting which mid or late rounders could be hits? Or maybe they got lucky as heck in the draft with those guys + have a mobile QB
Ok I guess..... I just think it’s kind of funny that Bradbury just needs better guard play so he can be better, sort of the Kirk Cousins of centers lol
In response to the very first question, I think I saw somewhere Kirk had a below-average EPA/per play in garbage time among all QBs. I know one stat is not an end-all be-all, but it is interesting that some numbers point to the opposite of him being the emperor of garbage time.
I wonder if the EPA would be connected to a lot of underneath stuff that results in long drives, high comp% etc.
If he's the emperor of something, it's murdering bad defenses. Wrote about it earlier this year, when he faces a bottom 10 defense, he whips them
I won’t pretend that I’m very well versed in EPA, I just know that it’s usually quite useful. A lot of other QBs likely have a smaller sample size too, so take that for what it’s worth.
Garbage time definitely falls into the bucket of bad defenses, though.
The stat I loathe is QB "wins" against winning teams. Every QB does better against bad teams and worse against good teams.