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Initially, at the risk of turning myself permanently into a broken record, I think that this article is entirely right in arguing that it is likely that our OL will grade out poorly over the course of the full season, but I personally do not think the operative question is how the OL will perform over the course of the full season - I think the question is how good the OL can be by December and January. With such a young line, it is extremely unlikely that they are average (much less good or great) on September 12 against the Bengals. However, I am more concerned with how well the OL performs on January 2 against the Packers at Lambeau (which, incidentally, is French for "rags" - neat trivia fact of the day!). This is relevant because young OL tend to flounder substantially in the first half of their first season - take the aforementioned Andrew Thomas, who as mentioned had an extremely rough rookie campaign in 2020, arguably a worst case scenario for Darrisaw (being as any worse and he would be benched). Even Thomas had a substantial upswing in the second half, jumping from a 52 overall grade in the first 8 weeks to a 62.7 overall grade in the last 8 weeks), even being PFFs rookie of the week in week 13. Now obviously a 62.7 grade is still pretty dang poor, but the point remains that what will likely matter most is not how the team starts the year or average over the entirety of it but how they end it, particularly because of how much harder the DLs on the schedule will get once it gets to week 11 (after which the Vikes play GB twice, the Bears twice, SF, Pittsburgh, and the Rams), and in this specific instance there is reason to believe that our OL might start bad and end up okay or even good.

Beyond that, I honestly think that the performance of the OL is very likely to be the thing that determines the fate of Zimmer, Spielman, Cousins, et al.

If the defense is as good as we think that it can be (say top 5 by DVOA) but the OL is even worse than last year, I think that we are probably saying goodbye to all three of them. If our OL doesn't take a step, that basically guarantees a best-case-scenario of a first-round exit from the playoffs, which feels like enough that the Wilfs will want a restart. I mean look at the Steelers and the WFT from last year - defense, by itself, doesn't win playoff games anymore, even if you are at home.

However, even if the defense is merely, say, 14th in DVOA, and even if Cook is hurt for 8 games, and even if all of our kickers' legs all fell off (the Vikes have had the lowest FG% in the NFL in 2 of the last 3 years - that's gotta change just by random luck, right???), if our OL truly clicks into place I think that is what is needed for Kirk and ZimZam to surprise some teams and save some jobs, for better or worse (I am fine with Zimmer and Rick to get another shot, but I wouldn't mind sending Kirk on his way with a friendly pat on the back to usher him out the door).

The big wildcard in this is Kellen Mond. 95% chance he is fully irrelevant once the season starts, and 3% chance that if he does start that it is a disaster, but in the 2% chance that he starts and shows legit flashes and the Vikes somehow end the season 4-2 with him starting (and even if the Vikings don't win a playoff game with him), that is probably enough to save Rick and Mike. It would be basically identical to the 2018 Ravens, who began the season with Harbaugh bizarrely on the hot seat before Lamar saved his bacon with a 6-1 stretch to end the year. And yes, I am aware of how categorically ridiculous it is to compare MVP Lamar to 3rd round pick Kellen Mond, but this is more about trying to compare between two teams that have been recently floundering (incidentally Zimmer has more playoff wins and a higher winning percentage in the last 5 years than Harbaugh had in the 5 before Lamar) and how a rookie QB has a tendency to make everything look exciting again.

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Doop's avatar

I've read and watched over the years how the Vikings have positioned themselves in this predicament... limited financials to invest in top-tier talent, drafting rookies mid rounds instead of higher, structuring offense based on X's and O's instead of actual people on the field... I'm all for putting the rookies out there and finding a way. It's the only legit option that will teach the coaching staff, team owners, and players how to manage with what they can afford/acquire.

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