To quote the philosopher Galadriel, "The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true."
Just a little Lord of the Rings nerdery for you, but it's kind of where the franchise is right now.
All respect to Diggs, he’s very good and lucky. Truth be told he’s a bit pouty I like Josh Allen, he’s a step behind Mahomes, perhaps Stroud is a half step behind. I’m confident Diggs will do well, I think I’ve seen enough of Diggs to know it’s all about Stephon. A team can succeed with him, his long term viability is questionable. I’ve watched both the Diggs brothers. I think if I was building a team I would look elsewhere than these two. If this sounds like “sour grapes” oh well, just the opinion of an old fart.
They’re separate issues - we all know you need to get the rookie QB deal and that guy to be good - highly unlikely we get someone as good as CJ seems to be. Viking fans can have a laugh at Diggs showing his same prima donna attitude. Buffalo is dying for receivers and they ate $28M to get rid of him. That says a lot. He was a ghost when it mattered. Diggs attitude doesn’t match his production. Yeah, he made one of the best plays in franchise history but the final accounting shows the Vikings made the right decision. Why would Houston screw up a great WR room growing together with the dude who’s going to be firing off moronic tweets by week 5? It’s also hilarious they used the Vikings pick to do it. It’s the transfer of the curse to Houston.
I find it hard to label anyone who would run routes in the middle of the field and get drilled a diva. I’ve always thought of him as a PITA. That being said I wish him well. I think he has always been able to read the tea leaves and see when the team he is on is about to regress from being competitive. Personally I was hoping he’d take a former home town discount and come back here as wr3.
they won 13 games with Trubisky because they got Khalil Mack and put together a great team... evidence that even a mediocre QB on a rookie deal can be propped up
He never won more than 8 games as a starter after that season and averaged around 7 wins (as starter) during his entire rookie contract after which he was jettisoned. Certainly the rookie contract allows propping up the rest of the team but as MT shows, this is short term success. Getting the right QB is what matters. And it is hard.
Fact check: Trubisky went 11-3 as a starter in 2018 on a 12-4 team that was a field goal doink away from beating the Eagles in the playoffs. I don't need to keep explaining the point of using him as an example. Everyone knows you want a better QB than Mitch in this year's draft.
Sure its obvious you want a better QB than Mitch. It is equally obvious that paying a rookie QB $5M - $9M a year allows spending a lot more money on other positions. What is not obvious is that it is the teams trajectory that makes this a good trade, not their cap position. The Rams made similar trades their Super Bowl year with a high dollar QB. The reason this trade works for Houston is that they picked the right guy in Stroud. With hindsight, do the bears make the trade for Mack? I do not think so. This was a poorly run organization at the time and did not assess their QB well a year in. Hopefully the Vikings leadership can assess the QB accurately and make the right decisions.
Note, Not sure why the fact check. What I said was accurate. Perhaps addressing the 13 win comment above? One good "regular" season then mediocrity.
To quote the philosopher Galadriel, "The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true."
Just a little Lord of the Rings nerdery for you, but it's kind of where the franchise is right now.
All respect to Diggs, he’s very good and lucky. Truth be told he’s a bit pouty I like Josh Allen, he’s a step behind Mahomes, perhaps Stroud is a half step behind. I’m confident Diggs will do well, I think I’ve seen enough of Diggs to know it’s all about Stephon. A team can succeed with him, his long term viability is questionable. I’ve watched both the Diggs brothers. I think if I was building a team I would look elsewhere than these two. If this sounds like “sour grapes” oh well, just the opinion of an old fart.
They’re separate issues - we all know you need to get the rookie QB deal and that guy to be good - highly unlikely we get someone as good as CJ seems to be. Viking fans can have a laugh at Diggs showing his same prima donna attitude. Buffalo is dying for receivers and they ate $28M to get rid of him. That says a lot. He was a ghost when it mattered. Diggs attitude doesn’t match his production. Yeah, he made one of the best plays in franchise history but the final accounting shows the Vikings made the right decision. Why would Houston screw up a great WR room growing together with the dude who’s going to be firing off moronic tweets by week 5? It’s also hilarious they used the Vikings pick to do it. It’s the transfer of the curse to Houston.
I find it hard to label anyone who would run routes in the middle of the field and get drilled a diva. I’ve always thought of him as a PITA. That being said I wish him well. I think he has always been able to read the tea leaves and see when the team he is on is about to regress from being competitive. Personally I was hoping he’d take a former home town discount and come back here as wr3.
You lost me at Trubitsky.
they won 13 games with Trubisky because they got Khalil Mack and put together a great team... evidence that even a mediocre QB on a rookie deal can be propped up
He never won more than 8 games as a starter after that season and averaged around 7 wins (as starter) during his entire rookie contract after which he was jettisoned. Certainly the rookie contract allows propping up the rest of the team but as MT shows, this is short term success. Getting the right QB is what matters. And it is hard.
Fact check: Trubisky went 11-3 as a starter in 2018 on a 12-4 team that was a field goal doink away from beating the Eagles in the playoffs. I don't need to keep explaining the point of using him as an example. Everyone knows you want a better QB than Mitch in this year's draft.
Sure its obvious you want a better QB than Mitch. It is equally obvious that paying a rookie QB $5M - $9M a year allows spending a lot more money on other positions. What is not obvious is that it is the teams trajectory that makes this a good trade, not their cap position. The Rams made similar trades their Super Bowl year with a high dollar QB. The reason this trade works for Houston is that they picked the right guy in Stroud. With hindsight, do the bears make the trade for Mack? I do not think so. This was a poorly run organization at the time and did not assess their QB well a year in. Hopefully the Vikings leadership can assess the QB accurately and make the right decisions.
Note, Not sure why the fact check. What I said was accurate. Perhaps addressing the 13 win comment above? One good "regular" season then mediocrity.
Hard not to view Buffalo as what minnesota would have been with a elite QB. I feel like the will be limited as long as they have McDermott.
He and Zim seem like excellent coaches to have when your culture needs a reset, but need to move on once the foundation is set.
That and I think Zim is far better defensive mind.
Okay good plan, now how do we get to a spot high enough in the draft to get Drake Maye?